Hello and thank you for stopping by. I acquired these speakers last year at a local sale close to home. Family was in the process of moving so they decided it's time for someone to take on the task of re-foaming the woofers. Please refer to the photos to hopefully get a general idea of the state of these speakers. The white marking on the edge of one of the speaker cabinet comes off when rubbed off. I do not believe these are dry paint. Some surface scratches which is typical of old speakers due to handling. One has a chip on the rear as shown in one of the photos. If have questions, please ask. Please note that I do not have the capacity of package these speakers. They are heavy... Buyer must pick up at my residence. If you are in desperate need of these speakers, you can contact our local UPS Store located on Constitution Blvd to get an estimate on packaging and shipping. I would be willing to take these speakers to this UPS Store and you can work with them direct on shipping. Take care!